#78 No more bullshit. The top 10 lamest excuses for stealing artists music

I am on the fucking warpath this week.

Lamest arguments in favor of illegal file sharing from the past week. I’m not making this shit up. These are real arguments people presented. And argued vehemently.

1. “Marijuana is illegal. File sharing is illegal. Therefore it’s okay.”

Response try filesharing your pot dealer’s stash with 5,000 strangers online and let’s see how long you live.

2. “The RIAA is secretly behind filesharing. They make more money suing people than by selling albums. There are Youtube videos explaining all this therefore it’s true. Therefore it’s okay to steal from cracker and camper van beethoven”

Response: The RIAA was also behind 9-11, Global Warming Hoax and the Kennedy assassinations. Usher is behind Justin Bieber. And Camper Van Beethoven tests cosmetics on lab animals.

3. I heard that the record companies ripped off Willy Dixon in the 1950′s Therefore it’s okay to steal from Cracker and Camper Van Beethoven.

Response: Very clever. You figured out that Cracker and Camper Van Beethoven have a time machine. We all went back in time to the 1950′s (before we were born) and took $20 dollars from the man’s wallet while he was sleeping. Curses Foiled again.

4. Louis CK. Is successful and his stuff is on Youtube. Therefore it’s okay to steal Cracker’s songs.

Response ask Louis CK if he would prefer his income stream or his idol George Carlin’s Income stream from album sales, video sales, book sales in the 1970′s and 1980′s. Louis CK is making a lot of money. But nothing like George Carlin. And in the process he is helping Google/Youtube add to the piles of gold bullion that Google keeps in secret spaceship deep inside the mantle of the earth below their mountain view “campus”.

5. Music should be free it belongs to the universe.

Response: Okay then come to my house and do YOUR job for free. My car needs it’s oil changed and someone needs to pick up the dogshit in the backyard. There is a signup list on our website. Last i checked my car and the dogshit also “belonged to the universe”.

6. In the middle ages there were no music sales. It was all based on live performance.

Response: Yes and doctors bled you or covered your torso with leaches when you were sick. Also it was permissible to beat your wife with a stick as long as the stick was not larger in diameter than your thumb .

7. “Music sucks today. I’m gonna steal music I like. You bad. No No.”

Response: There is no official response. We have been advised by our legal counsel that the above referenced statement exhibits such a degree of logical incoherence that the statement:
A) was made by a mentally disabled individual
B) are lyrics to a Red Hot Chili Peppers song
C) A zen koan created by a zen master operating on a higher level of consciousness
D) or any two of the above three.

8. “You’re not the boss of me. You can’t tell me what to do”

Response: Actually I personally am the boss of you. Check with your attorney. Unless you are in international waters. Now get out in the backyard and clean up the dog shit.

9. “The Record labels and Musicians failed to adapt to the new hi tech reality. So it’s okay to steal music by Cracker and Camper Van Beethoven”.

Response: So it’s okay to steal handmade boots, organically grown farm produce from family farms, and custom motorcycles? You’re right I’ve been stealing custom choppers for years. How stupid of me. You win.

10. “It’s okay to steal from musicians cause they are all rich”

Response: Although I am dictating this into my solid gold jewel encrusted dictaphone from horseback I’m not rich. Now Steve Jobs he was rich. You know he was buried in a 300 yard long platinum coffin along with 50,000 of his favorite servants? A funeral procession 66 miles long stretched from Vacaville California to Mountain View. Thousand of Buddhist monks burned themselves alive. I’m not rich.

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A lot of you may be shocked by this response. But should you really be surprised? I mean i’ve spent 29 years making music for people who think the world is full of a lot of unadulterated bullshit and can see the humor in it. Have a sense of humor people.

19 No More Bullshit


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21 comments

  • dhani

    dhani

    David - is it not possible that we just aren't buying as much music as we used to ? I don't think you're diminishing sales means that everyone who you would expect to buy an album is stealing it. You guys lost me at Gentleman's Blues (aside from "James River") which came out just as downloading started happening. Since then I bought Forever and New Roman Times, but have not been excited by much new music across the board. I seriously doubt that so many people stole your music who would have bought it in the first place. I mean, Elvis Costello puts out a gazillion albums of varying quality and I don't rush to down to the uhhh...record store to get the latest.

    David - is it not possible that we just aren't buying as much music as we used to ? I don't think you're diminishing sales means that everyone who you would expect to buy an album is stealing it. You guys lost me at Gentleman's Blues (aside from "James River") which came out just as downloading started happening. Since then I bought Forever and New Roman Times, but have not been excited by much new music across the board. I seriously doubt that so many people stole your music who would have bought it in the first place. I mean, Elvis Costello puts out a gazillion albums of varying quality and I don't rush to down to the uhhh...record store to get the latest.

  • victor

    victor

    Let's face it - video killed the radio star, there are no more milkmen, we don't need coal or ice delivered to our homes, there's no need for various repairmen anymore - shit changes. You can be mad all you want but nothing is going to go back to the way it was.

    Let's face it - video killed the radio star, there are no more milkmen, we don't need coal or ice delivered to our homes, there's no need for various repairmen anymore - shit changes. You can be mad all you want but nothing is going to go back to the way it was.

  • No one you know

    No one you know

    I was recording music off the radio without buying it long before mp3's and file trading existed. I used to record family members talking. I guess I'm a thief for that and a thief if I were to print your blog post. You can secure all your creative ideas by not expressing them. After all it is you who put your valuables in the public's reach. If I put gold jewelry on my front porch with a drop box for money next to it, I'd expect the drop box to be empty and the jewelry to be gone. Why do you expect someone to pay you for music at all? Except for the free mp3 you made available above, I've never owned or heard any of your music before. In my life, your music is not inspiring or even relevant. One thing I'll never concede you "owning" is vibrations in the air or alignment of magnetic particles on a substrate. Copies are never exact.

    I was recording music off the radio without buying it long before mp3's and file trading existed. I used to record family members talking. I guess I'm a thief for that and a thief if I were to print your blog post. You can secure all your creative ideas by not expressing them. After all it is you who put your valuables in the public's reach. If I put gold jewelry on my front porch with a drop box for money next to it, I'd expect the drop box to be empty and the jewelry to be gone. Why do you expect someone to pay you for music at all? Except for the free mp3 you made available above, I've never owned or heard any of your music before. In my life, your music is not inspiring or even relevant. One thing I'll never concede you "owning" is vibrations in the air or alignment of magnetic particles on a substrate. Copies are never exact.

  • Pete Dude

    Pete Dude

    David- You rock and lots of people suck. I've never been involved with file sharing but I'm also not a cheap son-of-a-bitch looking for an easy way to steal anything which mostly has to do with the way I was raised. People know it's not right and the excuses are beyond comprehension. I'm all for creating a Copyright Task Force and going after some of these punks. Maybe we can get some special geek squad to screw all the computers up that file share?

    David-
    You rock and lots of people suck. I've never been involved with file sharing but I'm also not a cheap son-of-a-bitch looking for an easy way to steal anything which mostly has to do with the way I was raised. People know it's not right and the excuses are beyond comprehension. I'm all for creating a Copyright Task Force and going after some of these punks. Maybe we can get some special geek squad to screw all the computers up that file share?

  • Pete Dude

    Pete Dude

    Actually I take back that last sentence but the next to last still works.

    Actually I take back that last sentence but the next to last still works.

  • JF

    JF

    Maybe when "victor" and "No one you know" get out of high-school and stop freeloading in their mother's basements, downloading bit-torrents and playing video games they also stole, and actually have to get jobs and pay bills they will have an appreciation of the fact that no matter what you do as a profession, you have a right to get paid. (Little snot nosed punks)

    Maybe when "victor" and "No one you know" get out of high-school and stop freeloading in their mother's basements, downloading bit-torrents and playing video games they also stole, and actually have to get jobs and pay bills they will have an appreciation of the fact that no matter what you do as a profession, you have a right to get paid.

    (Little snot nosed punks)

  • victor

    victor

    I buy, on average, about $100 a month of music. I like to buy vinyl albums that come with downloads or an actual CD. I like having something in my hand and the artwork makes the purchase feel worthwhile. Put out vinyl albums that are packaged decently, include the mp3's, price them fairly at about $20 and/or sell the downloads at $5 for the whole album. There's no shipping, distribution, packaging or salespeople in involved. You cannot tell me that 15 songs on mp3's are the same as a CD or album and they should not be priced the same. Adapt or die - that's life.

    I buy, on average, about $100 a month of music. I like to buy vinyl albums that come with downloads or an actual CD. I like having something in my hand and the artwork makes the purchase feel worthwhile. Put out vinyl albums that are packaged decently, include the mp3's, price them fairly at about $20 and/or sell the downloads at $5 for the whole album. There's no shipping, distribution, packaging or salespeople in involved. You cannot tell me that 15 songs on mp3's are the same as a CD or album and they should not be priced the same. Adapt or die - that's life.

  • R.Burgundy

    R.Burgundy

    David, you seem pretty pissed off. I have just read through your rather long and incoherent letter to Emily, and after trying to find some way to contact you that didn't require me signing in to wordpress and having it abuse my twitter, I have found this shameful little peice of literature. I am sure you have heard all of the excuses people of "my" generation can spout at you, but the fact remains that had the technology existed at the time, then your generation would have done exactly the same. you claim that the way forward is to repent our sins by donating to charities and taking a stand against those that download illegally? but for what? so that the record labels, who you insist are not as malicious as we would believe, can sue ordinary people extortionate amounts of money for a few songs? so that the artists can feel so much better about themselves having a charity look after them? You are angry david, and rightly so. But do not think for one second you will have convinced anyone to change the way they see things. You claim that if we are so willing to pay for the hardware then why not the content? well the fact of the matter is we aren't happy about that either, if I could torrent an ipad of course I fucking would. Artists are not victims of a moral decline, they are victims of the industry refusing to evolve with technology. I also resent your faux-paternal attitude, trying to side with me one minute and then lamenting the decline of a generation the next. it seems you've forgotten who raised us. Musicians will always make music, it is it's own reward. No one ever made a timeless album with the sole incentive of selling it to become rich. If I could buy a physical copy of everything in my itunes library I would gladly do it, but the fact of the matter is that I'm a student and can't afford that. Is that any excuse? Well no, no it's not. But I guess what I'm trying to say David, is that there are far bigger issues than intellectual property. musicians make music because it feels 'right', fans listen to it and adore the artists. meanwhile there are nearly a billion people who will go hungry tonight, and an old man pissing me off with his ignorant opinions about the mentality behind my generations actions. stay classy

    David, you seem pretty pissed off. I have just read through your rather long and incoherent letter to Emily, and after trying to find some way to contact you that didn't require me signing in to wordpress and having it abuse my twitter, I have found this shameful little peice of literature. I am sure you have heard all of the excuses people of "my" generation can spout at you, but the fact remains that had the technology existed at the time, then your generation would have done exactly the same. you claim that the way forward is to repent our sins by donating to charities and taking a stand against those that download illegally? but for what? so that the record labels, who you insist are not as malicious as we would believe, can sue ordinary people extortionate amounts of money for a few songs? so that the artists can feel so much better about themselves having a charity look after them? You are angry david, and rightly so. But do not think for one second you will have convinced anyone to change the way they see things. You claim that if we are so willing to pay for the hardware then why not the content? well the fact of the matter is we aren't happy about that either, if I could torrent an ipad of course I fucking would. Artists are not victims of a moral decline, they are victims of the industry refusing to evolve with technology. I also resent your faux-paternal attitude, trying to side with me one minute and then lamenting the decline of a generation the next. it seems you've forgotten who raised us.

    Musicians will always make music, it is it's own reward. No one ever made a timeless album with the sole incentive of selling it to become rich. If I could buy a physical copy of everything in my itunes library I would gladly do it, but the fact of the matter is that I'm a student and can't afford that. Is that any excuse? Well no, no it's not. But I guess what I'm trying to say David, is that there are far bigger issues than intellectual property. musicians make music because it feels 'right', fans listen to it and adore the artists. meanwhile there are nearly a billion people who will go hungry tonight, and an old man pissing me off with his ignorant opinions about the mentality behind my generations actions. stay classy

  • Paul

    Paul

    R Burgundy, it takes time and effort to write stuff. I know that for something to be worth reading, for example, it takes me perhaps an hour to research and write for each minute it takes to read. The same applies, only more so, ti writing and recording music. That three minute song is the culmination of weeks of work. Your Boss, if you have one, would no doubt pay you less, or even nothing at all if he could. Mine certainly would. He cares about nothing but himself and his bottom line. I hate him. He's a selfish prick. I'm sure, having paid me as little as possible, he'd have reasons. Excuses. Justifications. He's still some cunt taking the bread out of my mouth to enrich himself.

    R Burgundy, it takes time and effort to write stuff. I know that for something to be worth reading, for example, it takes me perhaps an hour to research and write for each minute it takes to read. The same applies, only more so, ti writing and recording music. That three minute song is the culmination of weeks of work.

    Your Boss, if you have one, would no doubt pay you less, or even nothing at all if he could. Mine certainly would. He cares about nothing but himself and his bottom line. I hate him. He's a selfish prick.

    I'm sure, having paid me as little as possible, he'd have reasons. Excuses. Justifications.

    He's still some cunt taking the bread out of my mouth to enrich himself.

  • Bernard

    Bernard

    Don't worry - most illegal downloading/ file sharing is done by people under 30 and nobody under 30 has any interest in Cracker or Camper Van Beethoven. Either you make enough money touring to support yourself or you get a day job. You sound like a cranky old man clinging to an outdated business model.

    Don't worry - most illegal downloading/ file sharing is done by people under 30 and nobody under 30 has any interest in Cracker or Camper Van Beethoven. Either you make enough money touring to support yourself or you get a day job. You sound like a cranky old man clinging to an outdated business model.

  • Mike

    Mike

    David, I have been a fan a long time...couple of questions in response to your post.... I download a lot of music, BUT I also BUY a lot of music. I have purchased well over $100k of music over the last 30 years (including all your CDs). I would not have purchased much of the music that I did if it weren't for downloading. For instance, I may "discover" a band via download, but purchase the next three CDs they put out and see them live twice and buy a shirt along the way. How do you respond? Question #2: I have four kids age range 19 to 24. I know they download music, I cannot stop that. My two youngest are really into music, but they make less than $12k a year. They barely make rent. Would it be better for the industry if they didn't listen to music at all? Not trying to be pedantic, just interested in your perspective.

    David, I have been a fan a long time...couple of questions in response to your post....

    I download a lot of music, BUT I also BUY a lot of music. I have purchased well over $100k of music over the last 30 years (including all your CDs). I would not have purchased much of the music that I did if it weren't for downloading. For instance, I may "discover" a band via download, but purchase the next three CDs they put out and see them live twice and buy a shirt along the way. How do you respond?

    Question #2: I have four kids age range 19 to 24. I know they download music, I cannot stop that. My two youngest are really into music, but they make less than $12k a year. They barely make rent. Would it be better for the industry if they didn't listen to music at all?

    Not trying to be pedantic, just interested in your perspective.

  • Dan

    Dan

    David, First of all let me say that I love this angry rant, and I love the letter to Emily as well. I agree with 100% of your points in both articles. The people who insult you or your music are just upset that you have pointed out a flaw in themselves that they choose not to address. These people are ignorant. They think things should be free just because they would rather not pay, end of story. But I also must confess to illegally downloading over 40,000 songs since about 2004. I have never justified my actions like almost everyone else I've ever talked to you on the subject has. I've always known it to be stealing. And it always amazed me when people would justify their stealing with some of the examples you've given. Sometimes I would argue with them about it, but usually I wouldn't even bother. After all I was just as guilty as they were, I just didn't allow myself off the hook about it. I'm not sure which is worse. Lately I've been purchasing more and more albums through iTunes, partly due to feeling guilty about the sheer amount of unpaid for music I have enjoyed over the years. These feelings are brought to the surface after hearing arguments like yours from people who are actually affected by illegal downloads. Those voices are getting more and more difficult to push aside. I'd like to present to you another side to this debate which probably won't' change your mind on the subject, but might give you an understanding on why an otherwise decent law abiding citizen would participate in ripping off the artists that he listens to. Some (if not all) of my reasonings might appear to be nothing but slightly more thoughtful justifications than the ones above but hear me out if you would. I've always seen the issue as pretty black and white. Stealing is stealing. Whether you're shoplifting at the mall or pulling mp3's off peer to peer sites. And I still feel this way on this level. My argument now takes into consideration the massive increase in music knowledge I have afforded myself since music essentially became free. It would take me literally hundreds of years to accumulate the music collection I have now legally. Sometimes I wonder if I'll eve even be able to listen to all the music I have (currently 60,000 mp3's). Frankly if illegal downloading had never been invented I'd probably have fewer than 10,000 songs of mostly metal in my collection. I certainly would not have the entire discographies of the Rollings Stones, Beatles, Bob Dylan, James Brown, Miles Davis, The Who, The Kinks, Queen, etc, etc. I never would have "discovered" Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed, Tom Waits, and about a thousand others who I either wouldn't have been open minded enough to sample or wouldn't have known where to start. So I guess my point is that by stealing music these artists (and thousands of others) have now created a customer and some income from where there otherwise would not have been one. One of my recent purchases was Leonard Cohen's new album. If you add up the 10 or so full albums I had stolen previously I'm still way ahead of the game obviously. I still owe Leonard a bunch, but on the flip side the old me would never have bought a thing from him. Would never have posted a song for a friend, would never have seen him live or bought something at the show. It's sort of a backwards way of looking at the whole thing but over the long haul I think there are some positives to come out of the illegal downloading period. This exact same argument could be made for Fiona Apple, Alcest, Blonde Redhead, Bonnie Prince Billy, Brother Ali, Chromatics, Crooked Fingers, Darkthrone, Of Montreal, Sleigh Bells, the Roots, and others. I have stolen more from those artists than I have purchased admittedly, but I doubt I would have known about most or cared about them at all, and I have paid for recent albums by all of them. I keep sort of a guilt meter running nowadays based on how much I enjoy an artist and how much I am into them at this point. I try to give back accordingly. Again I admit that it's not at a fair rate, It's more like 1 to 10 or 1 to 20. To use you as an example I personally don't have your music in my collection, although I am curious as to whether or not I'd be into it. So if I download your album illegally today and of course you don't see a penny. But if I see the play count add up and I dig it I'll probably buy your next one, or go to a gig. But at this point in my completely spoiled process of music consumption it would be difficult for me to just buy your record cold so to speak. First of all I already owe a bunch of other artists and secondly I just expect the first listen to be free (as effed up as you probably think that is). So that's my basic argument I guess. It's something of a middle ground and is something of a segue into the newer models where artists receive fractional payments per listen rather than full payment in advance. I have a couple exceptions which I actually think are fair. 1. I don't feel the need to pay for artists who are deceased. There are probably arguments against this as well (aside from the obvious moral ones) but I'd rather give money to living artists than to the estate / record companies / families of dead ones. So yes I have every song Jimi Hendrix ever recorded. And many others. 2. I never steal from artists I know or have met personally for whatever reason. Small exception I know but that guilt would be just too overwhelming. So DeVotchKa, Magik Markers, Gunn-Truczinski duo, Crooked Fingers, and a bunch of underground metal and punk artists get my cash. The gist of my argument seems as ridiculous as the rest in a way. I'm basically saying that it's okay to steal things that you never would have bought anyway. But if in the long run a customer is created then it begins to make some sense. If I was an artist I might be inclined to give away my official music for free and ask people to pay me after the song got 10 plays. I'd be like hey, if you hate it why pay for it. If you like it, pay me. I think a fair answer is on the way, unfortunately musicians now are forced to make ends meet in the illegal era. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but I think in the long run it could turn out for the better. But either way you're fighting a righteous fight and your voice is important. People will try to shout you down like they did to others but your points are completely reasonable and based on a basic fairness which I think any rational person can relate to. Those are the people you will have an impact on. The dickheads who just think the world owes them free music just can not be reasoned with.

    David,

    First of all let me say that I love this angry rant, and I love the letter to Emily as well. I agree with 100% of your points in both articles. The people who insult you or your music are just upset that you have pointed out a flaw in themselves that they choose not to address. These people are ignorant. They think things should be free just because they would rather not pay, end of story.

    But I also must confess to illegally downloading over 40,000 songs since about 2004.

    I have never justified my actions like almost everyone else I've ever talked to you on the subject has. I've always known it to be stealing. And it always amazed me when people would justify their stealing with some of the examples you've given. Sometimes I would argue with them about it, but usually I wouldn't even bother. After all I was just as guilty as they were, I just didn't allow myself off the hook about it. I'm not sure which is worse.

    Lately I've been purchasing more and more albums through iTunes, partly due to feeling guilty about the sheer amount of unpaid for music I have enjoyed over the years. These feelings are brought to the surface after hearing arguments like yours from people who are actually affected by illegal downloads. Those voices are getting more and more difficult to push aside.

    I'd like to present to you another side to this debate which probably won't' change your mind on the subject, but might give you an understanding on why an otherwise decent law abiding citizen would participate in ripping off the artists that he listens to.

    Some (if not all) of my reasonings might appear to be nothing but slightly more thoughtful justifications than the ones above but hear me out if you would.

    I've always seen the issue as pretty black and white. Stealing is stealing. Whether you're shoplifting at the mall or pulling mp3's off peer to peer sites. And I still feel this way on this level.

    My argument now takes into consideration the massive increase in music knowledge I have afforded myself since music essentially became free. It would take me literally hundreds of years to accumulate the music collection I have now legally. Sometimes I wonder if I'll eve even be able to listen to all the music I have (currently 60,000 mp3's). Frankly if illegal downloading had never been invented I'd probably have fewer than 10,000 songs of mostly metal in my collection.

    I certainly would not have the entire discographies of the Rollings Stones, Beatles, Bob Dylan, James Brown, Miles Davis, The Who, The Kinks, Queen, etc, etc. I never would have "discovered" Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed, Tom Waits, and about a thousand others who I either wouldn't have been open minded enough to sample or wouldn't have known where to start.

    So I guess my point is that by stealing music these artists (and thousands of others) have now created a customer and some income from where there otherwise would not have been one.

    One of my recent purchases was Leonard Cohen's new album. If you add up the 10 or so full albums I had stolen previously I'm still way ahead of the game obviously. I still owe Leonard a bunch, but on the flip side the old me would never have bought a thing from him. Would never have posted a song for a friend, would never have seen him live or bought something at the show. It's sort of a backwards way of looking at the whole thing but over the long haul I think there are some positives to come out of the illegal downloading period.

    This exact same argument could be made for Fiona Apple, Alcest, Blonde Redhead, Bonnie Prince Billy, Brother Ali, Chromatics, Crooked Fingers, Darkthrone, Of Montreal, Sleigh Bells, the Roots, and others. I have stolen more from those artists than I have purchased admittedly, but I doubt I would have known about most or cared about them at all, and I have paid for recent albums by all of them.

    I keep sort of a guilt meter running nowadays based on how much I enjoy an artist and how much I am into them at this point. I try to give back accordingly. Again I admit that it's not at a fair rate, It's more like 1 to 10 or 1 to 20.

    To use you as an example I personally don't have your music in my collection, although I am curious as to whether or not I'd be into it. So if I download your album illegally today and of course you don't see a penny. But if I see the play count add up and I dig it I'll probably buy your next one, or go to a gig. But at this point in my completely spoiled process of music consumption it would be difficult for me to just buy your record cold so to speak. First of all I already owe a bunch of other artists and secondly I just expect the first listen to be free (as effed up as you probably think that is).

    So that's my basic argument I guess. It's something of a middle ground and is something of a segue into the newer models where artists receive fractional payments per listen rather than full payment in advance.

    I have a couple exceptions which I actually think are fair.

    1. I don't feel the need to pay for artists who are deceased. There are probably arguments against this as well (aside from the obvious moral ones) but I'd rather give money to living artists than to the estate / record companies / families of dead ones. So yes I have every song Jimi Hendrix ever recorded. And many others.

    2. I never steal from artists I know or have met personally for whatever reason. Small exception I know but that guilt would be just too overwhelming. So DeVotchKa, Magik Markers, Gunn-Truczinski duo, Crooked Fingers, and a bunch of underground metal and punk artists get my cash.

    The gist of my argument seems as ridiculous as the rest in a way. I'm basically saying that it's okay to steal things that you never would have bought anyway. But if in the long run a customer is created then it begins to make some sense.

    If I was an artist I might be inclined to give away my official music for free and ask people to pay me after the song got 10 plays. I'd be like hey, if you hate it why pay for it. If you like it, pay me.

    I think a fair answer is on the way, unfortunately musicians now are forced to make ends meet in the illegal era. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but I think in the long run it could turn out for the better.

    But either way you're fighting a righteous fight and your voice is important. People will try to shout you down like they did to others but your points are completely reasonable and based on a basic fairness which I think any rational person can relate to. Those are the people you will have an impact on. The dickheads who just think the world owes them free music just can not be reasoned with.

  • Dan

    Dan

    No you did it. I Just bought Telephone Free Landslide Victory on iTunes. I feel better already.

    No you did it. I Just bought Telephone Free Landslide Victory on iTunes. I feel better already.

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  • Steve Vanden-Eykel

    Steve Vanden-Eykel

    Wow, you're an idiot. You never even mentioned the real reason why it's OK to download music for free. Because it helps artists, and hurts record companies, and record companies have always been parasitic middle-men between artists and audiences. Be real, bubala. Cracker doesn't make its money from CD sales anyway. You make it from touring and merch. Every person who 'steals' a free album is a potential new customer. Assuming your music doesn't suck, that is. But hey, if it bothers you that much, rest assured I'll never download one of your albums. Like, ever.

    Wow, you're an idiot. You never even mentioned the real reason why it's OK to download music for free. Because it helps artists, and hurts record companies, and record companies have always been parasitic middle-men between artists and audiences.

    Be real, bubala. Cracker doesn't make its money from CD sales anyway. You make it from touring and merch. Every person who 'steals' a free album is a potential new customer. Assuming your music doesn't suck, that is.

    But hey, if it bothers you that much, rest assured I'll never download one of your albums. Like, ever.

  • Boots

    Boots

    David, Frankly, I didn't think you were in it for the money David. Loyal Fan, I also own 95% of all cracker releases which were purchased from a retail store, so I am doing my part and you got your cut.

    David, Frankly, I didn't think you were in it for the money David.
    Loyal Fan,
    I also own 95% of all cracker releases which were purchased from a retail store, so I am doing my part and you got your cut.

  • Kaveh Rastegar

    Kaveh Rastegar

    As a musician who makes 100% of my income through music I want to second David's sentiments. I hope that some of you who assume that because musicians and artists have issue with illegal downloading understand that it is something that gets in the way of many of us maintaining a normal if not survivable quality of life. It's not greed that spurs this it's fairness. And shame on anyone to criticize musicians for having a problem with this. Spend your entire life studying, mastering your craft, building your legacy and let it be stolen without any thought to reimbursement and see how it feels. All discussions about new business models aside, can you not understand that it is WRONG?!

    As a musician who makes 100% of my income through music I want to second David's sentiments. I hope that some of you who assume that because musicians and artists have issue with illegal downloading understand that it is something that gets in the way of many of us maintaining a normal if not survivable quality of life. It's not greed that spurs this it's fairness. And shame on anyone to criticize musicians for having a problem with this. Spend your entire life studying, mastering your craft, building your legacy and let it be stolen without any thought to reimbursement and see how it feels. All discussions about new business models aside, can you not understand that it is WRONG?!

  • mikebmbx

    mikebmbx

    www.arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/new-music-survey-p2p-users-buy-the-most-no-one-wants-disconnection-penalties/ You've ignored the argument made above - Those of us that you call 'freeloaders,' p2p/downloaders that is, buy more music then those you champion as 'honest.' We also go to more concerts and buy more music merchandise. When you spout invective at us, and call us names, you alienate us. You think we're freeloaders, but we're actually the people actively funding the music industry as it exists today buying vinyl/digital downloads, going to shows and buying merchandise.

    www.arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/01/new-music-survey-p2p-users-buy-the-most-no-one-wants-disconnection-penalties/

    You've ignored the argument made above - Those of us that you call 'freeloaders,' p2p/downloaders that is, buy more music then those you champion as 'honest.' We also go to more concerts and buy more music merchandise.

    When you spout invective at us, and call us names, you alienate us. You think we're freeloaders, but we're actually the people actively funding the music industry as it exists today buying vinyl/digital downloads, going to shows and buying merchandise.

  • Kshatriya

    Kshatriya

    Intellectual property is bullshit, and entails mind control. Fucking failed middle-brow intellectuals think they 'deserve' an income, it's how they're bribed into shilling for the state. Fuck you, I'll download 3 movies just to spite you and your kind.

    Intellectual property is bullshit, and entails mind control. Fucking failed middle-brow intellectuals think they 'deserve' an income, it's how they're bribed into shilling for the state. Fuck you, I'll download 3 movies just to spite you and your kind.

  • IT Guru

    IT Guru Internetz

    Imbecile, at least make an attempt to learn the difference between digital and physical property. How stupid are you, really? F*kin degenerate, next you will propose to take money from anyone able to observe any man-made object, like building, car, fake f*king boobs EVEN ON INTERNETZ! WTF, did your latest lobotomy failed or something?

    Imbecile, at least make an attempt to learn the difference between digital and physical property. How stupid are you, really?
    F*kin degenerate, next you will propose to take money from anyone able to observe any man-made object, like building, car, fake f*king boobs EVEN ON INTERNETZ! WTF, did your latest lobotomy failed or something?

  • Moses Brodin

    Moses Brodin houston

    How could you make this video without having samples of the kind of music that is made on the sites!? I don't wanna click around on every page like a dork! Boo! Bad job, you dongheads! Ragerds:Moses Brodin

    How could you make this video without having samples of the kind of music that is made on the sites!? I don't wanna click around on every page like a dork! Boo! Bad job, you dongheads!
    Ragerds:Moses Brodin

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